2008.11.29(Sat) Hyun-chul Kim ********************************************************************** Title: Report - the first Africa-Asia Experimental Measurement Session ********************************************************************** 1. Date, Time and Place : 2008.11.27(Thu) 2:45-3:45PM, then 4PM-5PM. Chamarel Ballroom, Le Meridien Hotel, Mauritius 2. Contents All the presented materials below are attached to this mail 1) Session Intro & Internet Traffic Classification (Why do we need to internationally collaborate/cooperate, with what resources?, particularly for Internet Measurement & Internet Data Sharing) - Hyun-chul Kim @Seoul National University 2) Distributed Active Measurement Framework -- An Interim Report of Gulliver Project - Kakiuchi Masatoshi @NAIST 3) Cyber Crime & Network Security Risks (Remote talk from Malaysia) - Selvakumar Manickam @IMPACT project 4) CASFI Data Sharing Platform: The Importance of Metadata Management and Data Sharing (Remote talk from South Korea) - Seoyeon Kang (presenter) / Sue Moon (PI) @KAIST 3. Review 1) Feedback from the audiences during/after the Measurement Session : Today, during/after the Measurement Session, three people (from Uganda, Kenya, South Africa, ...) have shown their interests to the second talk, on the Gulliver Project. Kakiuchi san got several contact points from whom want to get the Gulliver measurment box. He has forwarded their contacts to Yuji Sekiya san soon already, now they are (already) emailing/talking to Sekiya san on how to configure the boxes (either using DHCP or static IP address), how to send/get the boxes to people here in Africa, etc. There was a suggestion that we might have to consider bringing more boxes to the meeting location and distributing the boxes at the venue, since some countries may charge a tariff on the boxes shipped using DHL, ... A few questions were also asked on how to collect raw traffic data, as well as traffic flow data, particularly using low-cost PC boxes on a O(10)Mbps links. (which S/W to use, how to do port-mirroring, etc.) 2) Remote talk arrangement : we should establish a HOW-TO guideline for this for the next time, since we have had some (scheduling & S/W arrangement) problems with this, probably because this was the first trial of remote talks between Africa and Asia?) (i) Schedule: we have to fix the remote talk session schedule AS EARLY AS POSSIBLE and try to keep the schedule/promise without any change just before/during the event. otherwise, if we change/move the session schedule too often, particularly just one week or a few days before the session, it is very hard or next to impossible for remote speakers, particularly very busy professors and/or experts, to give a talk remotely. Due to the last-minute/day schedule change, professor Sue Moon couldn't give us a remote talk so that one of her students (fortunately, who was actually doing the CASFI DSP project) gave us talk instead of her. This is a very important lesson for us, particularly when we want to invite a big/influential speaker (who should be very busy and can't change his/her schedule easily) as a remote presenter, from the next time. (ii) S/W : S/W for remote talk should be arranged and tested at least a few weeks or a month before the event, not just during the event, at the same context. 4. On the Next step 1) African Measurement SIG formation, now all the members on the Measurement@AfricaAsia.net we formed a Measurement SIG after the Measurement Session. I added all the people below to our mailing list, Measurement@AfricaAsia.net, upon their request & approval. We're starting with the following members: all, if you have any more members you want me to add to the mailing list, please mail me. Alain Aina (CTO, AfriNIC, who is WAY TOO BUSY :-) Alex Corenthin (ISOC Senegal) Vincent Ngundi (Administrative Manager, KENIC; Kenya NIC) Michuki Mwangi (Senior Education Manager, ISOC, Kenya) Mark Elkins (Director, UniForum S.A., South Africa) Lala Andriamampianina (President, NIC Madagascar) Duksh K. Koonjoobeeharry (Communications Area Assistant, AfriNIC) Douglas Onyango (?, Uganda) ; Douglas, please let me know your affiliation and title. :) Mana Aidara (Numbering plan & domain name Manager, Postal and Telecommunications Regulatory Agency (ARTP), Senegal) From Asian side, we already have the following members in the measurement@africaasia.net James Won-Ki Hong (POSTECH, South Korea) Sue Moon (KAIST, South Korea) Akira Kato (Keio University, Japan) Kenjiro Cho (Internet Initiative Japan, Japan) Young-seok Lee (Chung-Nam National Univ., South Korea) Yuji Sekiya (WIDE, Japan) Selvakumar Manickam (IMPACT project, Malaysia) Sureswaran Ramadass (IMPACT project, Malaysia) kc claffy (CAIDA, US, invited) Hyun-chul Kim (Seoul National University, South Korea) 2) Future Africa-Asia Measurement Cooperation/Collaboration & Next Events - Sekiya san et al.'s Gulliver project is the first/best candidate item as of now. (it has already started! they're already asking&discussing how to configure & send the boxes, ...) "Hopefully we will have a progress presentation/report on this first cooperation, at the next AfriNIC meetings @Cairo, May 2009." (Vincent Ngundi) - CAIDA-WIDE-CASFI workshop during PAM (Passive and Active Measurement Conference), @Seoul, South Korea, April 2009. From Africa, Alain Aina and Alex Corenthin will be attending the CAIDA-WIDE-CASFI workshop. Perhaps they would need an invitation letter from us@Korea, for visa application process? Alain, Alex, Please let us know if you need any help on this. - Africa-Asia (Joint) Measurement Workshop @Cairo, May 2009 + Which will focus on possible collaborative/cooperative candidate projects for Asia-Africa(and possibly US) Internet Measurement researchers/operators/engineers. + From African side, Hope we will have at least a few presentations from African side/efforts (either they're African-only or Africa-Asia co-work which is now just beginning) @Cairo, so that both sides will have better understanding on exactly what measurement problems/topics are (and/or will be) common interests to co-work. Hope Alain and Vincent will find and collect good candidate topics (from Africa) soon, by the end of December. As we talked, Let's target a half-day measurement workshop, just in case we have more number of good speech proposals, then we may propose a full-day workshop. Let's use the Measurement@AfricaAsia.net mailing list to initiate this discussion, by starting from exchanging/sharing the information on, WHO @ WHERE (ORGANIZATION, COUNTRY/CONTINENT) ARE DOING WHAT. + From Asian side, let me contact/collect more number of experts/speakers from Asia(and elsewhere). Measurement talk proposals/recommendations from Korea, Japan, and US, will be highly appreciated. 5. Remarks Now things are just getting started (it was just the first experimental effort, as we all know), so from now on we will need to try/push ourselves more, to increase connection bandwidth (of human/experts network) between africa and asia, to give them/us more chances of mutual understanding on what's happening out there, what possible collaboration/cooperation items there are, and how to make them real, so on. (starting with and/or not only on Measurement, but also on PlanetLab, DTN, IPv6, etc.) so, let's see, particularly on measurement@AfricaAsia.net :-) 6. Related Meetings: Schedule in 2009 - 2009 March: The 27th APAN Meetings, @Kaohsiung, Taiwan (2009.3.2-6) http://www.apan.net - 2009 April: CAIDA-WIDE-CASFI Workshop, during PAM 2009, @Seoul, South Korea (2009.4.1-3) http://pam2009.kaist.ac.kr - 2009 May: Africa-Asia Joint Workshops during AfriNIC/AfNOG meetings, @Cairo, Egypt http://www.AfricaAsia.net